Secret to do anything!

Sylar · 10-21-2009, 11:51 PM

Today I woke up and realized something.The secret to accomplish anything you want to do. I been watching the Matrix movie lately and was thinking about it last night before bed, and was trying to make myself lucid dream about being in the matrix and freeing my mind.Well it didn't happen,I was really tired from reading all day and practicing telekinesis.I think I was able to move a piece of tissue.Well before I got in bed I looked in the mirror and my eyes were all red with lines,so I know I needed sleep.Well when I woke up in the morning I was trying to do telekinesis,and while trying to empty and focus my mind.Then it popped in my head some of the lines from the matrix movie.

1.)Have you ever had a dream,Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

2.)Morpheus:What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

3.)Morpheus:This is a sparring program, similar to the programmed reality of the Matrix. It has the same basic rules, rules like gravity. What you must learn is that these rules are no different that the rules of a computer system. Some of them can be bent. Others can be broken. Understand? Then hit me if you can....

4.)Morpheus: How did I beat you?
Neo: Your too fast.
Morpheus: Do you believe that my being stronger or faster has anything to do with my muscles in this place? You think that's air you're breathing now?... Again.

5.)Morpheus: What are you waiting for? You're faster than this. Don't think you are, know you are.... Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me.

6.)Neo: I know what you're trying to do.
Morpheus: I'm trying to free your mind, Neo, but I can only show you the door, you're the one that has to walk through it.

7.)Morpheus:You have to let it all go, Neo, fear, doubt, and disbelief. Free your mind.

8.)Neo: I thought it wasn't real.
Morpheus: Your mind makes it real.
Neo: If you're killed in the Matrix, you die here?
Morpheus: Your body cannot live without the mind.

9.) Morpheus: I've seen an agent punch through a concrete wall. Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be.
Neo: What are you trying to tell me, that I can dodge bullets?
Morpheus: No Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

10.)Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo: There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

11.)Morpheus:Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

12.)Trinity: Run, Neo. Run! What is he doing?
Morpheus: He's beginning to believe.

13.)The One: I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Well those are the lines that stood out to me.When I was attempting telekinesis,I started to think to myself.Why is this hard for me to move?What is stopping me from doing telekinesis?Why won't it move?
Then I started to think like in the movie, what Morpheus said to Neo:1.)Don't think you can know you can.2.)What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

Well I looked at the tissue and considered it as not really there but really in my mind."There is no Spoon"

As I looked at it started to shake a little bit I think.

I think that when a person believes that something is not really there but in there head,then they visualise what is in there head is actually really there,they can do anything.Just because you see something,feel something,smell something,taste something,and hear something does it mean it is real?

I will let you decide what real is.

Thanks, I would like to hear your comments.

allaboutsoul · 10-22-2009, 12:00 AM

That is an interesting thought, although I don't know if I'd go so far as to say one should believe things aren't real. I do think "mind over matter" is important, though, and that it's important to believe you can do something; to not doubt its possibility. This seems to be your own way of doing that. I'll admit that I am no expert on such things, being very new to psionics myself. "Mind over matter" just seems like a good thing to me.

NoMad · 10-22-2009, 12:12 AM

There are certain physical laws that have to be adhered to. Laws of conservation of matter. Things like that. That said, if you doubt yourself you aren't going to achieve anything at all.

sairys · 10-22-2009, 03:32 AM

though it is a movie and what was not based on reality, the matrix does have it's own lessons for Psionics. I believe that what was said about mind over matter is very important and if you don't believe than you won't achieve. Also that if what we perceive as reality are only electrical impulses that allow us to use our 5 physical senses to "know" something is really there than anything is possible when fully realizing that.

Pat McDonald · 10-22-2009, 05:19 PM

From a philosophical standpoint, the only thing you are incapable of escaping as "real" is your own awareness.

Everything within that awareness could be false data. We really all could be free floating brains in a lab with a helluva virtual reality system going on.

Which is what the movie was all about, really. Very old school thinking but with a nice sexy Hollywood makeover.

Autovisualisation - imagining the activity you are performing, pracitising it - is a very useful technique for consistency and improvement. Not just limited to psychic functioning.

Nightshade · 11-05-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by allaboutsoul

That is an interesting thought, although I don't know if I'd go so far as to say one should believe things aren't real. I do think "mind over matter" is important, though, and that it's important to believe you can do something; to not doubt its possibility. This seems to be your own way of doing that. I'll admit that I am no expert on such things, being very new to psionics myself. "Mind over matter" just seems like a good thing to me.

You may not be an expert but don't let that stop you; you said almost exactly what I was going to say.

It is interesting, and if you are interested in this sort of thought then check out the "brain in a vat/box" theory. That theory was the main spark for the matrix; whether or not the creators realize it. This theory entails that it is impossible to know whether or not our existance is real, or if it's just sensory input and our brains are really "suspended in a vat" with our bodies discarded...which can also be translated as "a dream," or a "virtual reality video game from the future," and so on.

If this type of thinking helps you with your PK or whatever, then go ahead and use it. Individuals vary, therefore each of our own personal techniques to attain accomplishment will as well. However, it is important to keep in mind that this can be false, and our reality IS reality. If you blindly and completely follow either then it may hinder your advancement...but it also may not, at least by staying in the middle you don't risk a "psuedo psychosis" or possibly a real one; and also shouldn't negatively affect your advancement either way. By believing in psionics however, you already took your first step: psionics breaks major physical laws in OUR reality, but at the same time it is somewhat explainable (or at least coincidental) therefore it also fits in OUR reality.

I find it best to be in the middle, realizing the "mind over matter" scenario but also realizing what laws are in this reality. Of course, I am always trying to break these laws, and see a failure to do so as simply "not strong/skilled enough yet to determine if the law was broken or not." That way I can still think along the lines of "mind over matter" but in a realistic perspective.

At the very least this notion is interesting, and is something I enjoy musing over very frequently...not quite at the point of obsession but much more than the threshold of an occurance.

ANYWAYS, sorry for the tangent there. This may get pretty confusing and muddled and I appologize in advance; this is something I can never convey exact enough to match what it is I am thinking regarding this subject.

I don't exactly believe this is the secret to do anything because I don't believe there is a secret to it. This may sound redundant or completely far fetched, but I believe that in order to do anything...you just have to know you can do anything. Not "think," not "believe," but KNOW. Obviously this is a hard thought to defend because the conceptual differences between thinking, believing, and knowing are blurred; it can be hard to tell if what you believe is truly a belief, or something you think/know. Also, if what I am saying is true then there should be some random people out there that happen to "know" they can fly...so they can fly. Since there is nothing that extreme my statement appears very false, or at least very untrue. However, for extreme physical law breaking most of us that "know" we can do something (fly for example), don't actually "know" we can but just "think" we can. It's a hard barrier to break, and a very hard concept to fully understand. But taking a look at the workings of the mind and how we as a world population don't even know what the mind is exactly, I find my little "theory" plausible at worst.

10-21-2009, 11:51 PM	#1
Sylar Telekinetic Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Secret to do anything! Today I woke up and realized something.The secret to accomplish anything you want to do. I been watching the Matrix movie lately and was thinking about it last night before bed, and was trying to make myself lucid dream about being in the matrix and freeing my mind.Well it didn't happen,I was really tired from reading all day and practicing telekinesis.I think I was able to move a piece of tissue.Well before I got in bed I looked in the mirror and my eyes were all red with lines,so I know I needed sleep.Well when I woke up in the morning I was trying to do telekinesis,and while trying to empty and focus my mind.Then it popped in my head some of the lines from the matrix movie. 1.)Have you ever had a dream,Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? 2.)Morpheus:What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. 3.)Morpheus:This is a sparring program, similar to the programmed reality of the Matrix. It has the same basic rules, rules like gravity. What you must learn is that these rules are no different that the rules of a computer system. Some of them can be bent. Others can be broken. Understand? Then hit me if you can.... 4.)Morpheus: How did I beat you? Neo: Your too fast. Morpheus: Do you believe that my being stronger or faster has anything to do with my muscles in this place? You think that's air you're breathing now?... Again. 5.)Morpheus: What are you waiting for? You're faster than this. Don't think you are, know you are.... Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me. 6.)Neo: I know what you're trying to do. Morpheus: I'm trying to free your mind, Neo, but I can only show you the door, you're the one that has to walk through it. 7.)Morpheus:You have to let it all go, Neo, fear, doubt, and disbelief. Free your mind. 8.)Neo: I thought it wasn't real. Morpheus: Your mind makes it real. Neo: If you're killed in the Matrix, you die here? Morpheus: Your body cannot live without the mind. 9.) Morpheus: I've seen an agent punch through a concrete wall. Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be. Neo: What are you trying to tell me, that I can dodge bullets? Morpheus: No Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to. 10.)Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. Neo: What truth? Spoon boy: There is no spoon. Neo: There is no spoon? Spoon boy: Then you'll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself. 11.)Morpheus:Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize, just as I did, there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. 12.)Trinity: Run, Neo. Run! What is he doing? Morpheus: He's beginning to believe. 13.)The One: I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. Well those are the lines that stood out to me.When I was attempting telekinesis,I started to think to myself.Why is this hard for me to move?What is stopping me from doing telekinesis?Why won't it move? Then I started to think like in the movie, what Morpheus said to Neo:1.)Don't think you can know you can.2.)What is real. How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. Well I looked at the tissue and considered it as not really there but really in my mind."There is no Spoon" As I looked at it started to shake a little bit I think. I think that when a person believes that something is not really there but in there head,then they visualise what is in there head is actually really there,they can do anything.Just because you see something,feel something,smell something,taste something,and hear something does it mean it is real? I will let you decide what real is. Thanks, I would like to hear your comments. __________________ Have you ever had a dream that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

10-22-2009, 12:12 AM	#3
NoMad Device Forum Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tulare, CA Posts: 3,126 Rep Power: 0	There are certain physical laws that have to be adhered to. Laws of conservation of matter. Things like that. That said, if you doubt yourself you aren't going to achieve anything at all. __________________ Troll named questlove says. how do i shot fireball? i dont kno how 2 charge ma lasor help pls last reply is troll Pavlov Responds with I'm very sorry that your last reply was a troll, but perhaps I can help you to shed some light on the situation. To charge a laser, first determine the type of laser you intend to operate. If you intend on using a continuous wave laser, then you cannot- strictly speaking- charge the laser, as the laser is on continuous output. However, you can engage the laser; to do so, ensure that all laser elements are functioning and in their proper places, and then close the circuit enclosing the laser system. Alternatively, if you intend on using a pulsed laser, then you can charge without operating the laser. This can be done by isolating the discharge capacitors that maintain the laser pumping, and closing this circuit independently of the circuit containing the rest of the laser system. You can also simply operate a pulsed laser, rather than merely charging it, by leaving the laser in its' original setup, verifying the functionality and placement of the individual laser elements, and closing the entire circuit. I hope this clears things up for you, and good luck on the continued operation of your laser(s). Questlove's rebuttal wat ¯\(°_o)/¯ Pavlov finishes him with You expressed an inability to charge your laser- syntactic decomposition retrieved it from your statement of "i dont kno how 2 charge ma lasor" and I thought that I might be able to help you out. I do hope that my explanation improved your ability to charge the laser in question.

10-22-2009, 05:19 PM	#5
Pat McDonald Very, very pale grey Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 181 Rep Power: 0	From a philosophical standpoint, the only thing you are incapable of escaping as "real" is your own awareness. Everything within that awareness could be false data. We really all could be free floating brains in a lab with a helluva virtual reality system going on. Which is what the movie was all about, really. Very old school thinking but with a nice sexy Hollywood makeover. Autovisualisation - imagining the activity you are performing, pracitising it - is a very useful technique for consistency and improvement. Not just limited to psychic functioning. __________________ Beware virii that hide in signatures. Nasty, nasty hackers out there. Usually they appear in Personal Messages, not on a forum. You think I don't know. Well, maybe you're wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. But assuming you are always right always puts you in the wrong. Because assume just makes an ass of u and me.

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10-22-2009, 12:00 AM	#2
allaboutsoul Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	That is an interesting thought, although I don't know if I'd go so far as to say one should believe things aren't real. I do think "mind over matter" is important, though, and that it's important to believe you can do something; to not doubt its possibility. This seems to be your own way of doing that. I'll admit that I am no expert on such things, being very new to psionics myself. "Mind over matter" just seems like a good thing to me.

10-22-2009, 03:32 AM	#4
sairys Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	though it is a movie and what was not based on reality, the matrix does have it's own lessons for Psionics. I believe that what was said about mind over matter is very important and if you don't believe than you won't achieve. Also that if what we perceive as reality are only electrical impulses that allow us to use our 5 physical senses to "know" something is really there than anything is possible when fully realizing that.